tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post2386490051237218436..comments2023-06-04T03:08:10.609-04:00Comments on Salty Current: Dear Paula Kirby, You're welcome.SChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01328512370690763252noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post-59039863605722328892011-07-14T17:29:07.207-04:002011-07-14T17:29:07.207-04:00Don't be absurd. Individuals of true merit are...Don't be absurd. Individuals of true merit are always fully recognized regardless of those factors. I have no truck with that attitude!SChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328512370690763252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post-59342562832650996622011-07-14T13:55:20.592-04:002011-07-14T13:55:20.592-04:00ah, ok, that makes sense :-p
and yeah, the vast m...ah, ok, that makes sense :-p<br /><br />and yeah, the vast majority of Atheist spaces, if not actively poked and prodded into it, are almost always male-dominated. And the same for ethnic/racial/ex-religious diversity.Jadehawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15469173565648873918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post-5529147443847504972011-07-14T13:30:54.084-04:002011-07-14T13:30:54.084-04:00Sorry if "post" was confusing. No, I was...Sorry if "post" was confusing. No, I was referring to your comment on TET about the Rally for Reason. I hadn't known about the Women in Secularism event, either.<br /><br />Also by the way, since the CfI has come up a bit recently,...I'd noticed several months ago that of their blog contributors, 7 are men and only 1 a women (4 and 2 amongst the guest contributors, so 11 and 3 overall).<br /><br />http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/contributorsSChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328512370690763252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post-28738563291458797442011-07-14T13:03:56.930-04:002011-07-14T13:03:56.930-04:00"By the way, I read your post, Jadehawk, abou..."By the way, I read your post, Jadehawk, about the other conferences"<br /><br /><br />are you referring to the write-up about the Copenhagen conference, or something else? <br /><br />I wish I still had the program for that, so I could check how many women were speaking; I only remember the two I actually heard, and I know Paula Kirby was there, too. IIRC, Taslima Nasrin had been invited as well, but her talk had to be cancelled since she wasn't able to come, after all.Jadehawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15469173565648873918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post-66990340475460588112011-07-14T07:01:09.628-04:002011-07-14T07:01:09.628-04:00After I posted that yesterday, I was looking aroun...After I posted that yesterday, I was looking around for other things she's written to try to see if her views might be more nuanced than it had seemed. Found this:<br /><br /><i>But I would also challenge the premise that it’s only the men who are visible in the atheist movement. <b>Just check out the speaker lists at atheist conferences.</b> Think of authors like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, <b>Ophelia Benson</b>. Think of the many prominent female bloggers out there: <b>Greta Christina, Blaghag, Skepchick</b>... What makes you feel we’re less respected than our male counterparts? I certainly don’t feel that, unless it’s the Big Four you’re talking about and their huge success as writers and thinkers accounts for and justifies that.</i><br /><br /><i>I absolutely reject the notion that women need a special helping hand in order to do whatever they want to do. The very notion reinforces misogynistic ideas of women being somehow weaker and less able than their male counterparts, and unable to achieve their goals in life unless men go out of their way to let them. As a woman, I have no truck with such attitudes.</i> <br /><br />http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions/1443-why-are-sexist-white-dudes-the-face-of-a/<br /><br />Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!<br /><br />By the way, I read your post, Jadehawk, about the other conferences, and just recently yours, Rorschach, about this bizarre panel (which, as you know, Coyne posted a video of, ordering people to watch the entire thing before commenting and forbidding people to talk about Watson - unbelievable).SChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328512370690763252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post-50671847665000596722011-07-14T05:02:12.655-04:002011-07-14T05:02:12.655-04:00Yeah well, your view, one I agree with by the way,...Yeah well, your view, one I agree with by the way, is for some funny reason not especially popular in the blogosphere right now. Jerry Coyne in particular needs to have a long hard look at himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-417475152705096483.post-54454130108983605892011-07-14T00:27:40.839-04:002011-07-14T00:27:40.839-04:00that comparison to unions seems pretty apt: ignori...that comparison to unions seems pretty apt: ignoring the forces that improved the situation by pretending the situation wasn't ever bad to begin with is a very annoying tendency.<br /><br />And it's not like the fight over the lack of diversity in speakers is even close to over; judging from the current speaker list at the Rally for Reason, the only people who can speak for reason are white guys. Can't look away for even one moment without the movement reverting to that "default" *sigh*Jadehawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15469173565648873918noreply@blogger.com